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And also to practice identifying triangles and words that start with the letter S, of course. She was very excited to tell me it's a "Dooiss" star, and I corrected her with the phrase "Star of David" - yes, Ana, David like David in your class, but not exactly.

It's interesting how these things stick with you. She swung her star a bit, Evangeline, and said "Hanukkah, Hanukkah", so I pulled her on my lap on the rocking chair and sang "Oh Hanukkah" with her, which we sang *every* year during winter when I was in Brooklyn. (We had more Jewish students in my class than I think either Ana or Evangeline does now, so it made more sense, but whatever.) And when we moved to Staten Island, the schools here didn't do that, they had other songs they did. So it's been a good 16, 17 years since I've sung or heard this song - but I was still word perfect.

Clicky!

Of course, when Evangeline was a baby I used to entertain myself by going "Oh, baby, baby, baby, I made her out of clay, and when I'm good and ready, with baby I shall play", which... didn't make sense even then, but it's a catchy melody to be sure. When I was a kid, they'd hand out these little plastic dreidles for us at the Holiday Party (or around Hanukkah if it was very early in the month, and then our party would be at the end of the month), and those chocolate coins, gelt. And now they sell those chocolate coins with Santa on them, presumably for Christmas, which just strikes me as either the ultimate in cross-cultural sharing or WRONG WRONG WRONG VERY WRONG. Not sure which.

Date: 2009-12-19 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ksol1460.livejournal.com
*steals your gelt*

Mmm. Streit's. You tell her I'm Dooiss too and my middle name is David. Did you all ever find that book Rufus M by E. Estes or has she got her library card yet?

Date: 2009-12-19 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leora.livejournal.com
Well, since I don't like chocolate, I'm still a bit sad that the tradition has moved to chocolate coins. It's supposed to be money. Of course, the value of coins has seriously dropped over the years and bills just don't have the same satisfying physicality that coins do for traditional purposes.

Date: 2009-12-21 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leora.livejournal.com
I grew up in Nassau county, so lots of Jews and lots of Christians. It seems the Christmasifying of Hanukkah was pretty prevalent. But then, Hanukkah is a minor holiday. Purim, Yom Kippur, and Passover did seem to stay fairly traditional among Jews.

Although I still find it incredibly odd that the Christian families would string up all these lights and most of the Jewish families didn't. The lights really have nothing to do with Christmas and are purely about the commercialization of Christmas and enjoyment of lights. Hanukkah is "The Festival of Lights", yet... I may never get that one.

I do think stringing up lights during the winter is a fairly nice idea, because the darkness can make people's moods worse. Although I think the stringing up of blinky lights should be stopped. I have a crusade against flashing and flickering lights of all forms. Usually this focuses on bad flourescents (sp sorry lost on the spelling here), but there is one special time of the year where I want to smash people's decorations.

Date: 2009-12-21 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leora.livejournal.com
But why don't Jews generally? It's just as much fun if you're Jewish, and we actually have a festival of lights.

Date: 2009-12-22 10:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leora.livejournal.com
I'm more railing at the sky. Although, in all honesty, my family wouldn't have put up lights even if we were Christian. We didn't celebrate holidays that required that type of effort. Sure my parents fast for Yom Kippur (unless there is a medical reason not to), and we had separate Passover plates and 8 days of missing french toast, and full really long sedars. But we didn't celebrate Sukkot, because despite it being one of the coolest holidays in existence, it takes a lot of effort of a far more physical sort. I would have been content with not doing it every year, but now and then would have been nice. We did celebrate Purim, but just in a go to the temple's holiday party sort of way.

Although I'm really glad I didn't have to celebrate Christmas every year. I quite like participating in a Christmas celebration now and then. I've enjoyed a few of the ones I've been to. But celebrating it every year is just way more often than I like, and then I find it incredibly annoying rather than fun. I've already gotten to decorate a tree at a friend's house, and I liked it, but I would find it tedious to do annually.

Much as I like Halloween, but I don't want to celebrate it every year. I can't really think of any celebration that I want to celebrate every single year. New Year's comes closest, but that's just because if I had the money and willingness, I could celebrate by going to a party in Kentucky that would have some of my friends that I don't get to see too often at it. But even that, I'm not sure I'm up for it every year, and I'm skipping this year.

Although someday I should decorate eggs. I've never done that. Although for missing holiday experiences, I'd still rather build a sukkah and decorate it. But I have built forts and I have gone camping.

Date: 2009-12-19 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leora.livejournal.com
I just clicked your link... that's not how I learned it in Hebrew School. We always sang "sivivon to play with and latkes to eatle" not "dreidles to play with and latkes to eat". I can see how the switch would happen, since "sivivon" (sieve vee von... hmm how to write what "von" sounds like, it kind of rhymes with loan or hone) means dreidles.

Which scans better? Whichever does is probably the original. But I can't tell because my meter-perception is abnormal.

Date: 2009-12-20 03:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leora.livejournal.com
You probably weren't going to Hebrew School. I learned various interesting bits of info about Judaism and Hebrew there. Unfortunately, my language acquisition skills are really bad, so despite studying Hebrew for many years I learned very little and remember even less (I used to be able to say the pencil is on the table, but I can't recall how to anymore). I did learn a little bit about mikvahs though. And I read Genesis and Exodus. Later I read Leviticus on my own when I accidentally locked myself out of my apartment while doing laundry and was waiting for my apartmentmate to get home from work and let me in. People left a small collection of books in the apartment building's laundry room and not that surprisingly, someone had left a Bible. Alas, I have not yet motivated myself to read Numbers.

Date: 2009-12-20 04:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leora.livejournal.com
Cool! I never learned to skate. Sounds fun though.

Date: 2009-12-20 01:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feebeeglee.livejournal.com
No no no. It goes:

Trixie trixie trixie, I made you out of milk
Trixie trixie trixie, you and all your ilk.

Date: 2009-12-20 05:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beezelbubbles.livejournal.com
"Oh, baby, baby, baby, I made her out of clay, and when I'm good and ready, with baby I shall play", which... didn't make sense even then

Is it bad that the first thing I thought was "Wonder Woman's mom made *her* out of clay!"?
Also it feels like culture shock that kids would be drawing Stars of David in school. I'm in a primarily Catholic area, so that's my default of seeing others. (Despite not even being Catholic myself.)

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